October 12, 2007

  • Hey there. You’ve got opinions, right? So, what’s your take on this:
    Just because something’s legal, does that make it right?

Comments (28)

  • i guess it depends. guns are legal but it doesn’t make it right to shoot people. people should use common sense and make decisions for themselves.

  • Of course not. Calling someone ugly is legal.

    Hating someone is legal.

    Voting Republican is legal.

    Being wrong is legal.

    Being ignorant is legal.

    And burning fossil fuels is legal, too.

  • if you go back in time, holding slaves was legal, oppression and the jim crow laws were legal, but it’s obvious that these things aren’t right.

  • If it’s profitable. Of course, you would know, considering you’re an ad agency funded by tobacco companies anyway. I know most people would call that strange, but it’s how the tobacco industry stays alive – by deceiving people and hiding itself among good intentions.

    How’s about you take your phony ads, site, and the rest of your bullshit, quit producing it, and give the money you would otherwise use to make that shit to charities and to countries that have already suffered enough under the cruelty and selfishness of corporate laissez-faire capitalism, such as Iraq and Darfur?

    Nah. Forget that. Because the Real Truth is that you’d rather take than give, steal rather than borrow, and destroy rather than create. The hypocritical words that spew like sewage from your lips slowly degrades and tears down our civilization and any hope of bringing balance and harmony to mankind. The Real Truth is that you’d rather have people “pull themselves up by their bootstraps” than offer them a hand.

    Trouble is, we all know at some point, you were given a hand up. And that – the little block of thoughts that you just can’t get rid of – will stay in the back of your mind forever, and will always torment you, regardless of your state of mind.

    This site isn’t Truth. It is Deception in all its glory. And anybody who believes otherwise is serving the corporate masters of this country, despite what they say.

    Enjoy your pride while it lasts – guilt and anxiety outlast greed and pretentiousness.

    Sleep well.

  • hell no. it’s our moral obligation to rebel against the laws we believe are wrong.

  • I think JettaKnight86 is just angry because he just failed a big test in his philosophy class.

  • No, no it doesn’t. … Well, … alsekhoweiru. I just lost all the words to my answer. :

  • Just because our government decides that something is legal, doesn’t make it right (depending on one’s beliefs).

    Abortion is legal here in California, but for many people, abortion is morally wrong.

    Selling cosmetics made from cancerous ingredients is perfectly legal to sell to the public, but isn’t it wrong to sell them, knowing that they are harmful to the consumers’ health.

  • No. Just ’cause somthing is legal doesn’t make it right.

  • Just because something is legal doesn’t make it right.  I watched that Disney movie with Elijah Wood…  I think it was called Tom and Huck.  Don’t remember, but one line stuck in my head.  It goes, “Just because you’re taught that something’s right and everyone believes it’s right, it don’t make it right.”  I strongly believe that. 

    End of story.

  • Of course not, our government isn’t an earthly entity writing scripture according the instruction of the Creator and Lord of the Universe…. like the bible was.

    But looking on the other side, please consider this; how much is legal today that was illegal 100 years ago? such as swearing in public?

    Plenty of these people agree that law doesn’t make it right, so does that mean they would sign a petition to make illegal to swear in public?

  • i see where this is going…

    but alas, the real question is this: if something’s illegal, does it make it morally wrong?

    because i got a parking ticket the other day for parallel parking the wrong way, and i’m thinking of disputing it…

  • Absolutely not. The law does not in any way reflect “right” by default.

  • He who wins, rights history and such is the same for the law.  It is illegal to slaughter horses, dogs, cats, and other domestic animals but where is the line??? Then, It is legal to kill and gut chickens, cows, and other farm animals for
    the benefit of humans, but that does not in anyway make it RIGHT it do. What does this tell me? Who ever wrote those laws ate meat from farm animals but believed the dog is a mans best friend.

    it is illegal to murder yet legal to kill in war.

    It is illegal to disturb the ‘peace’ but SUPPOSE to be legal to assemble and speak freely. though disturbing  the peace could be as simple as the cops dont want you standing up against the government.

    it is not legal to force a person to pay income tax, yet people get fined for it if they dont know their rights.

    it is illegal in some states to try and commit suicide, yet legal to smoke cigarettes.

    it is legal to clone and minipulate the non human animal species and yet illegal to use volunteered embryos of humans for stim cell research which is suppose to help promote human health.

    it is legal to kill someone is the line of duty if you are an officer, but illegal to kill if you have a grudge and some one hurt you (raped, nearly killed).

    we dont write the law. THEY do. those who want things their way. those who decide that you cn speak up for your rights as long as it doesnt get in the way of them depriving you and other creatures of theirs.

    On another note, there are infact things that are illegal(marijuana) that arent as hazardous as things that are legal(cigarettes).

    Who ever made smoking legal probably smoked or has relatives who smoke and were taught that pot is bad when statisticly, zero people die a year from pot smoking and the worst allegy just makes you hyperventilate. while cigarettes kill you in all kinds of ways(lung disease, cancer, second hand smoking, so many other things) and even due damage to children.

    Illegal is just a word to scare you and legal is just a word that makes people feel entiltled to do what they do.

    when it is legal to have slaves, murder slaves, rape slaves and do the same to nondomestic or Protected animals, then what is legal only in the eye of those who chose to do those things or those who write the laws.

    So basically, we are screwed.

  • Well, if you think in terms of morality, that’s where it gets subjective.  It will ultimately depend on who, where, and when.  So many things influence the way people think. 

  • Of course not.  I can think of a million stupid things that are legal.  One of them being smoking…

  • I appreciate and share the disdain for the hypocrisy of this website that JettaKnight86 noted.  However, I don’t think laissez-faire capitalism is to blame for the problems in Iraq and Darfur.

    I’m assuming s(he) disagrees with U.S. military involvement in Iraq (I’m not strongly on either side) yet feel that they should be involved in Darfur.  Maybe that’s not the case, but given the apparent hang-ups, I can’t figure what else it might be.  If it’s so, the irony is not lost on me.

    Regarding the OP, why ask a question to which the answer is obvious while disguising it as a clever compliment?  Oh wait, I think I get it.  We’ll dupe them into concluding that smoking is wrong, even if legal, and they’ll think they came to that conclusion on their own.  They’re so smart.

    Hey, get this.  It’s also legal for the government to place an extra tax on cigarette sales and then to spend that money advertising against it (even though that has nothing to do with the purpose of government).  Legal?  Yes.  Right?  I don’t think so.

  • This is going to stop people smoking ?? Oh, wait, this is your attempt at subliminal advertising……which I think you’ll find is NOT legal.

  • Obesity is legal. I mean dude… eating more then  your proper proportion is legal and look how many people are dying from looking like sumo wrestlers?

    Slitting your own wrist is legal, verbally abusing each other is legal as long as the person is your age and it has nothing to do with sex so it doesn’t count as sexual harassment.

    Smoking should slowly be illegal, that way people will slowly and psychologically be discouraged from smoking, like places where you’re not allowed to smoke. Reasturant door ways, bus stops, subway stops.

    In Canaday, my school (templeton secondary) is banning kids from smoking in the school grounds. Even if they are just across the streets from the school, it can not be seen from the school grounds even.

  • smoking is legal and i believe it is my right to smoke whenever the hell i want to. there, i took your bait.
    as for the rest of you teenage, pseudo-philosophic simpletons, let me make one thing clear to your juvenile, anti-establishment mindset: all those “rich, old, white-guys” who run our government have been around, on average, 4-5 times as long as you’ve been alive. They have a bit more of a clue about how things work and how the population thinks and behaves. The laws they put forth are for your own good so you 1)so you don’t get hurt by bad people, 2)to protect you from your own stupidity. They aren’t looking to oppress you but protect you. Anyone who says otherwise is either an idiot or a celebrity, which more than likely places them in the former category.

    good night.

  • You all made a good pt. But why put up labels for what’s “right” and what’s “wrong?” Sitting there and complaining that the world has been rude or immoral is certainly a fine way to cash in your years, but I want none of that! What’s important is change. I want to KNOW about what needs to be changed, how to do it. I want to UNDERSTAND why things are the way they are.

    Smokers make their decision, and they have the right to enjoy cigarettes or whatever they smoke. Laws are there, and not every law is the ultimate “right” or “wrong”. There are laws that are made now that will be changed and there are laws that may never be. It depends on what the society needs and how it wants to run. Its underlying dynamics is about as complicated as anything you/I can imagine. But it doesn’t mean that it can’t be understood. Learn about it!

    You people take a lot for granted. You hear what people around you are saying, and you are like dummies, repeating after them. Yeah, you decided who to repeat, but do you actually know what you are saying? Do you know WHY people are saying what they are saying? Do you KNOW if swearing is wrong? WHY is it wrong? Just because the Bible told you so? Well, if the Bible told you to understand your fellow humans, did you listen? Did the bible also talk about the atomic bomb and the internet and race relations between indigenous people, about cultural extermination that will happen hundreds of years later that Jesus christ most likely did not know about? Did Jesus Christ talk about the Native Americans, whose cultures (heathens! you might say) were exterminated to pave way for the “super race”? Is that right to kill those people? So is the religious texts that lay before you the ultimate truth? Surely, Christ must have been a peaceable man, but why are there so many cultures exterminated by Christians? Are these also not the same Christians who run our sermons and teach us to be good? Did they become any more tolerant of foreigner cultures and etiquettes? No, as Christians we should listen to others, instead of forcing our values on other people, because sometimes we find that we may be the ones who are mistaken. Cultures of the world are more alike than you think, and Christ did not teach us to be judges, but servants. So do not pass judgments so easily.

    Let’s just try to suppress the “right/wrong” from our vocabs here. OK? Look at what’s useful. How can we stop smoking? Not by forbidding it legally. Not only by using xanga to make comments about what is “right/wrong”. How about give smokers the incentive to quit. How about learning about the role of smoking in this country and find a substitute. By listening to people who smoke, we might learn a lot more about how to stop people from smoking — if you actually want smoking to stop.

    Yeah, this site is hypocrisy, yeah the world is one confusing mess. You are not about to make this place any better, and it certainly is not about to get any better as time goes on. Yeah, as people we do some pretty messed up things, contradictory things. Don’t tell me you never did anything hypocritical. We are all defect, that’s why we’re people. We’re not gods. But that’s OK. You’d live.

    And here’s my comment to this site: I will never smoke myself. I will do my part to make sure that my children and my friends do not smoke. I appreciate the money that you (corporate Tobac Inc) put up to “prevent” smoking. I hope that one day, smoking will no longer be a problem for this society. I’ll do my part to further that step. If you really care, forget about the question “legal = right?,” join me.

    If you do not care, just know that one way or the other, the problem will be resolved. That resolution, if it is anything but a Nash equilibrium, will mean that you lose. So here’s the reason that you should care (and not that you are forced by the law.)

  • Of course not. Calling someone ugly is legal.

    Well, what if they really are ugly? Would it be wrong to do so in that case?

    Hating someone is legal.

    Yeah, so? In a democracy, you can hate whoever the hell you damn well please. Is that wrong? For example, I don’t have to like people who waste my time.

    Voting Republican is legal.

    So is voting Democrat. Unfortunately, most people in this country don’t have the common sense to realize that members of both parties don’t know shit from shinola when it comes to a plethora of things, not the least of which is how to lead a country well. That’s something that the retard demographic of Xanga will learn in about fifty to sixty years. 

    Being wrong is legal.

    Being wrong isn’t always bad, though. For example, I thought that I had failed my Supreme Court midterm because the essay section was hard. It turned out that I pulled off a solid B when most everyone else had indeed failed. So, I was wrong, but also pleasantly surprised. See what I mean?

    Being ignorant is legal.

    Which is illustrated perfectly in what has been written by the idiots at truth.com. People are going to smoke cigarettes or marijuana regardless of whether it’s legal or not. To make it illegal actually has the potential to make it more dangerous because it’s harder for people to check on the quality of the product. The black market that will be created as a result of making cigarettes illegal poses a threat to public safety. A lot of the crime in the inner cities is a result of illicit drugs. Can you imagine what it would be like if cigarettes were to be fought over the way heroin and cocaine are fought over?

    And burning fossil fuels is legal, too.

    Well, I guess I shouldn’t breathe, either. That can also increase the level of carbon dioxide, you know. :sigh:

    I think a better question is this: Is an action wrong just because it’s illegal?

    It is not morally abhorrent for people to smoke cigarettes or use illicit drugs. Smokers and drug users make conscious decisions to do so, regardless of barriers set up by the various levels of government. 

  • nope, and likewise the right thing might be illegal

  • In the city of York, it’s legal to kill any Scotsman carrying a longbow and arrows and inside the old city walls.  This law still exists, though others have rendered it rather obsolete.

    Something legal isn’t always right.

  • definitely not

  • Depends on what it is donig for the community. Its only legal if it is benefitting the community in a way.

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